Revman Zim wrote:Looking at the kill that supposedly started this thread, I am going to guess that it was a Black Ops fleet drop.
Having participated in those fleets in the past, I can say that they are not easy. You have to scout a system and find a target. That target has to be STUPID enough to stay in one spot (even though our scout shows in local) long enough for the scout to decloak, pop a cyno and for all of us to jump in, point, scram, kill and GTFO before the calvary is called.
Skill intensive, nerve wracking, long waits for small rewards, exhilirating when it works out.
But the key is the target has to be STUPID.
P.S. You were killed in NULLSEC. There is this place with rainbows, unicorns and NO CYNO's.. it is called HISEC.
If by stupid you mean failed to get to warp in the 2 seconds it took for the hot dropper to decloak and scram me then ya... I'm stupid. I could have been a bit faster, but not much.
Or maybe I was stupid for not immediately docking up the second I noticed a random name in local. I waited maybe 10 secs, the time it took me to run the name though my the kos checker, which is neccessary because eve can't handle enough corps/players in the actual in game standings settings. If I docked up immediately anyone came into local, I might survive, but I'd have even less fun than I did dying to a hot drop, and I'd get nothing done.
I'll never join another nrds corp, never thought it was a good idea. But they have a right to play the way they do. It might be viable if the game didnt have the limitations it does, but probably not. I'm pretty sure that a separate non-kos neutral scanned me down before the kos hot dropper arrived in local, because he was at the belt in less than 5 secs. I had been at that belt less than a couple minutes, killing rats.
Regardless of all that, it doesnt change the fact that the hot dropping could still be done without neutrals. This brings up a separate issue. There are plenty of nullsec systems in the alliance the corp i was in at the time that ALWAYS have a known hot dropper in local. Replicator alone had ships in 5-6 systems I knew about, but it wasn't him this time. They can just sit there cloaked up and afk for weeks on end, scanning till they find a good target, and nobody can scan them down. Cloaking should not be as effective as it is. Should my corp have abandoned those systems? After all it is stupid not to dock up with a known hot dropper in system. That sounds fun, I'll sit in dock all day. The large alliance I was in didnt have the means or motivation to try and bait the hot droppers with a hot drop of their own. So maybe it's my alliance's fault? I can't blame them. There's hot droppers everywhere all the time and sitting and waiting/baiting would be almost as much fun as gate camping, and you'd still never know what was coming in.
So many broken systems in this game, but those that use them for nearly risk free "pvp" will defend them untill the day they or the game dies.
As far as rainbows and hisec pvp, I do enjoy that and wardecs alot more, but few corps actively pursue it and instead hide in null when they are wardeced. Truth is most of the game is full of chickenshits, on both sides of the hot dropping thing.
And you've got to be kidding me about hot dropping not being easy. If it wasnt easy for you, you seriously must be mentally lacking. I'm sure its much easier in nrds null where you can use neutral alts to scan down victims, but even elsewhere... Not hard.